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Comments on Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion

Richard Dawkins, the well known evolutionary biologist and popularizer of evolutionary science (The Selfish Gene) has recently published a book that has been on various bestseller lists for months. It argues against the necessity of assuming the existence of a personal God, and draws attention to much harm done by religions in history and now. In the following I comment on some points made in the book. (See also post “Intelligent Design”)

Dawkins’ war against religion may seem somewhat quixotic to those who do not believe in a personal god and live or lived in countries where religion is unimportant. However, this is of course quite wrong, considering the dangerously evil influence fundamentalist religion has in the United States (Dawkins’ aptly named American Taliban and the rulers influenced by them), and the Middle East, to mention only the two most obvious cases. One can only hope that these people listen to what Dawkins has to say, although this may be wishful thinking. After all, criticism of religion has a long history (just remember Emperor Frederick II of Hohenstauffen), but religions still flourish, and in many parts of the world, it seems, more than ever.

Turning now to Dawkins’ arguments. He bases his arguments largely on the role of natural selection, which has led to the evolution of complex systems. Hence, he concludes, a God hypothesis supposedly needed to explain such complexity is superfluous. It seems to me that a God hypothesis is not needed whether natural selection is the predominant factor shaping evolution or not. The theoretical investigations of Stuart Kauffman (The Origins of Order. Self-organization and Selection in Evolution. Oxford University Press 1993) suggest that the overriding importance of natural selection in evolution is doubtful. He concludes that many traits of organisms have evolved not because of natural selection but in spite of it. Stephen Wolfram’s (A New Kind of Science, Wolfram Media 2002) extensive computer simulations of many systems have shown that simple “rules” in programs lead to complex characters. It is likely that genetic programs behave similarly. Therefore, natural selection acting on a very large number of mutations gradually leading to complex characters may be only one component in the process leading to complexity, and not necessarily the most important one. Many mutations will lead to complexity anyway. Further evidence against the overriding significance of selection is the prevalence of nonequilibrium conditions in nature (Klaus Rohde. Nonequilibrium Ecology. Cambridge University Press, 2005). The role of interspecific competition and natural selection, in such systems, is not as great as in equilibrium systems; historical events are important, and competition may go this way or that (diminishing the evolutionary impact of competition and therefore of natural selection). All of this does of course not rule out that natural selection plays some role as well, but it does mean that this role needs much further investigation.

Concerning the historical and social impact of religions, there can be little doubt that it has often been disastrous, to mention only the crusades, inquisition, forced conversion of natives in many continents leading to many millions of deaths. But I cannot quite agree with Bertrand Russell who said that the only good produced by religion (I assume he meant the Christian one) is the Gregorian calendar and one other minor achievement, which has dropped from my memory. After all, much charitable work, Bach’s cantatas and passions, much religious art (the Isenheim altar), architecture (the mosques of Cordoba and Isfahan, the blue mosque in Istanbul, the medieval cathedrals) and writings were inspired by religion. Richard Dawkins is of course right when he says that historical conditions made other inspirations at the time difficult. Mozart might well have been inspired by the Big Bang (after all he was a Freemason). But the same can also be said about the evil influence of religion. Is religion perhaps only a most effective way of establishing group coherence (as indeed suggested by Dawkins), and has it been the only available choice over much though not all of history? Groups tend to stick together much more closely when they feel threatened. Islam over centuries was almost a model of tolerance (at least towards other monotheistic religions); fundamental Islam has arisen at a time when Moslem countries felt overpowered and exploited by Western countries (much of this due to aggression driven by fundamental Christianity). The large Buddha statues in Afghanistan survived for centuries in a Moslem country; they were destroyed only now. Why? - So, assuming that Richard Dawkins’ crusade against religion succeeds, is it possible that some other mechanism of group coherence will take over? Could it be a virulent racism (some of which we have had already) or a national/cultural chauvinism that preaches conversion of others to one’s own supposedly superior language, culture and values in general (much of which has been abundant in history as well)? In this context, Dawkins’ emphasis on religion might even be dangerous, if (and I repeat if) it deflects attention from other important issues. Would it be perhaps more useful to concentrate on social and economic inequalities and try to suggest recipes for their amelioration? One can foresee the displacement of large populations due to global warming and virulent upheavals as a consequence. Keeping an eye on religions may be less fruitful, under such circumstances, than on social and economic inequalities.

In toto: this is an inspiringly and wittily written book, one must hope that the Taliban of any hue will not only read it but change their beliefs when reading it! As to the moral of the future, suggested by Dawkins to be universal love including not only humans but animals as well, this is the moral philosophy based on compassion, of the atheist Arthur Schopenhauer and atheistic Buddhism.

  • 6 Responses to “Comments on Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion”

    1. Chris Fellows Says:

      Good luck with your blog. I declined to participate in the blog.une.edu.au exercise, though I have been meaning to begin a science/science policy blog for a number of years, because of a bad experience with editorial interference by the hierarchy on my former une.personal pages: I was directed to remove all disparaging references to homeopathy because of UNE’s then arrangement with the Australian College of Natural Therapies.

      I fervently hope the powers that be will allow you to express your opinions freely.

    2. krohde Says:

      Chris. I reply to this in a new post: “Scientific integrity and money”.

    3. marco parigi Says:

      It always grates on me that the basis of Richard Dawkins argument that religion is evil, is that because certain historical leaders have done great evil in the name of God, that it is therefore the belief in God that causes the evil. My take is always that the problem arises when a nation’s leader is also the main religion’s leader. Once your leader becomes God’s representative on Earth, of course it opens up a great moral hazard. It is the abuse of power over people that is evil, not the leader’s belief in God. Therefore, a separation of church and state is more productive at reducing evil than railing against a belief in God. Great evils of Adolf Hitler, various soviet leaders and Mao just to name a few, had no requirement of a belief in God.

    4. krohde Says:

      Comments by Josef Alvermann

      dein Kommentar zu Dawkins hat mir sehr gefallen; denn er spricht mir natürlich aus der Seele. Doch wie Dawkins es sagt, spricht nicht aus meinem Gehirn. Denn eine Gottes-Hypothese ist nicht nur überflüssig um die Evolution zu erklären, sondern überhaupt überflüssig. Ja, mehr als das: schädlich in extremer Art. Dawkins Meinung ist wie tausende ähnlicher Meinungen philosophisch gesehen nicht elementar; ich benutze hier ein Gleichnis, das ich später erläutern möchte. Der Hauptfehler (vor allem psychologischer Art) der Argumentation ist, dass Gott vorausgesetzt wird, statt ihn als eine unsaubere späte Hypothese anzusprechen. Hier hat Schopenhauer eine wichtige, aber leider relativ unbekannte Aussage gemacht, die ich einmal mit großer Freude in ähnlicher, nur stilistisch schlechterer Formulierung niedergeschrieben habe, und die mir auch jetzt noch eine zentrale Ansicht zu sein scheint: Mir war einst, wie Schopenhauer - dem man ebenfalls seine Freude an dieser Erkenntnis anmerkt - mit großer Belustigung aufgefallen, dass das griechische a-privativum in ‚Atheist’ in psychologisch und folglich philosophisch falscher Weise angewandt wird. Im Gleichnis: Viele Leute glauben an Glücksfeen: Nach dieser `Logik´ ist jemand, der nicht an sie glaubt ein Nicht-Glücksfeen-Mensch mit negativer Konnotation, da er entbehrt - privare -, was den Unsinn offenbart. Unsinn aber ist eine richtige Wortbildung: deprived of sense. - Daher kann man Religionen wie alle Glaubenssysteme nicht gut bekämpfen; sie sind ein riesiger Wirbel, der sich, selbst wenn es gelänge ihn zu zerstören, immer wieder neu bildet. Es gilt die Ursache des Wirbels zu beseitigen, die eine spezielle ist. (Es ist erstaunlich, wie wenige größere Wirbel es selbst in komplexen Fließgewässern gibt. Extreme prevalence of nonequilibrium conditions!) Hat man aber die eine Position korrigiert - einen Stein beiseite geschafft -, hat man damit zugleich den ewig kreisenden Wirbel abgeschafft. Es gilt Gott abzuschaffen - alles andere ist ein ewiges Herumdoktern an Symptomen. Ich verwende ein Grundstein-Gleichnis in einem dynamischen Gleichnis im Gegensatz zu Goethe/Schiller statischer Denkweise: `Liegt der Irrtum nur erst wie ein Grundstein unten im Boden, immer baut man darauf, nimmermehr kommt er an Tag.´ Xenien. Im obigen Gleichnis bewirkt der Grundstein etwas; er ist eben keine bloße Grundlage.

      (Schon der junge Nietzsche machte sich übrigens über Strauss lustig, der der Ansicht war, es genüge, um Religionen zu bekämpfen, die historische Bedingtheit derselben aufzuzeigen. So, als ob man einem unglücklich verliebten Mädchen den Geliebten auszureden versucht, indem man die physiologische Bedingtheit ihres Verliebtseins aufzeigt - ein Unfug, der auf der Erde Milliarden mal gemacht worden ist. Es ist ewig jammerschade, dass ein Hawking ein solches Buch nicht schreiben konnte. Ihm allein traue ich eine tüchtige Argumentation zu. Tausende Physiker haben sich ja auf alberne Weise mit Schrödingers Katze herumgeschlagen und sich blamiert. Erst jetzt ist endlich Ruhe, seit Hawking meinte, wenn er noch einmal etwas davon zu hören bekäme, griffe er zum Gewehr. Bravo!)

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